MLive: Michigan is #7 for 2018

MLive: Michigan is #7 for 2018

January 3, 2018


  1. Comments: 225
    Joined: 12/24/2016
    Jan 04, 2018 at 7:45 AM

    OMG STOP IT! This stuff is just getting stupidly ridiculous! This team doesn’t deserve to be ranked in anyones Top 25 till they PROOVE they deserve or let me paraphrase Harbaugh “MERITED” it! ……….

    gawd I wake up at 4:30 AM – make coffee; its a beautiful morning in San Diego – to this: Please Stop it, Please!
    Lets talk about something real, merited, tangible instead of Idealistic Delusions.
    Good MooooORNING!………..INTJohn

  2. Comments: 784
    Joined: 8/11/2015
    Jan 04, 2018 at 7:56 AM

    If they can find a quarterback and two offensive tackles, sure. If not, they won’t even be close.

  3. Comments: 225
    Joined: 12/24/2016
    Jan 04, 2018 at 9:33 AM


    OK my prediction:
    Michigan stands pat in all phases but gets a brand new 5th year transfer Punter from Ole Miss………..

    Teamed with their ALL EVERYTHING greatest Defense in NCAA University History and on the strength of Nordin’s Leg Harbaugh chooses to punt on First Down in all regular season games and winning them all by identical 3-0 scores; winning the B10 East as well as B10 Championship again by a score of 3-0 and keeping with his New & Creative Offense attack of punting on First Down.

    Making the playoffs and YES! You guessed it and heard it first hear Folks! Defeating the competition by 3-0 scores and winning the National Championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    15-0 and outscoring their opponents by a combined score of 45-0!
    The transfer punter wins the Heisman with Nordin finishing 2nd…………

    As I see it……………INTJohn

  4. Comments: 563
    Joined: 9/13/2015
    Jan 04, 2018 at 1:05 PM

    1. UM doesn’t deserve to be in top 25. Completely agree. I hope they are completely dismissed by everyone.

    2. Now onto Patterson. This is going to be a qb comment.

    Take a lokt at a guy like Griese. He wasn’t that good his jr year. He had a very weak arm. He couldn’t move a lick although he could by his sr year work within the pocket. What made SR. Griese a very good qb?

    a. He was pretty accurate on both short and long throws. He led his wr’s. As Charlie Weis said the other day, the most important thing for a qb is to be accurate.

    b. He didn’t hold onto the ball too long. He had a good OL but he knew where he was going with the ball and didn’t wait for the wr to finish his route.

    c. He converted short passes and moved the chain.

    My point is that if you run a pro style then you better have a qb that both is accurate and makes his reads quick otherwise it’s not going to be work unless Steve Hutchinson and Jon Jansen are on the OL and a great rb in the backfield.

    Going into next year I think optimism is there if Peters develops or more importantly Patterson is available. What I notice with Patterson is the same thing on occasion I notice with Mayfield. He will look off his primary. He understands how to freeze the linebacker or safety. These better qb’s nowadays know how loosen up the field. Wr’s aren’t open if they are running a route and the safety has been reading the eyes of the qb. I think too many people are making the assumption the wr isn’t getting separation rather than the entire offense reads the qb.

    Let’s say I have Jerry Rice on the UM team. I have a qb who locks onto Rice. The linebacker can slide into the route area. The safety can play cover two and guess what? Rice is going to be contained somewhat. I don’t care how fast you are as a wr if the corner, safety and linebacker are in your area code.

    I am not going to get too excited by highlights but the best thing I saw on the Patterson tape was not his scrambling or his gunslinging mentality but that he will (like Mayfield) look at a wr knowing full well he is going somewhere else.

    Why some qb’s can’t get this concept I’ll never know. JOK was as bad as they come on focusing in just one spot/area. Rudock was pretty good his last half season but I don’t think he necessarily had this talent. Some guys have this gift and it makes all the difference in the world. Accuracy and leadership is essential but the ability to open up the field by playing with the defense is what separates the mediocre from the great.

    Charlie Weis said Tom Brady will throw to anybody and he will change up the play based on the safety location.

    Short passes go quickly. Intermediate and longer passes you have to get the linebacker’s and safety out of your throwing area.

    • DonAZ
      Comments: 386
      Joined: 8/12/2015
      Jan 04, 2018 at 2:25 PM

      I like this post a lot. I particularly liked this: “He converted short passes and moved the chain.” Yeah, it’s nice to have a guy that can chuck it 60 yards downfield. But I’d *much* rather have a QB that can consistently hit an open guy for 8 to 15 yards for a first down**.

      Also: leading the receivers. There are few things more beautiful than a pass that hits the receiver *in stride* just as he cuts and breaks across the field.

      ** My personal favorite box score stat is 3rd down conversion rate. Second only to turnovers, that helps tell the story why a team didn’t win a game. (I like yards gained on first down as well, but that’s not a common box score stat. Meaningful, yes: consistent 2nd and longs is not a good thing.)

      In 2017, Wisconsin, Penn State, and Ohio State ranked 4th, 5th and 6th nationally in 3rd conversion rate (~46 to 48%). Michigan State was #21 at 45%. Michigan was #116 at only 33%.

      It’s a somewhat deceiving stat as some teams don’t face many 3rd downs, so a low conversion rate on a few 3rd down opportunities really suggests the team converted a lot of 1st and 2nd downs into more 1st downs.

      But still — move the chains. Not every pass has to go to the house.

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