MLive: Michigan is #7 seed, will face Oklahoma State

MLive: Michigan is #7 seed, will face Oklahoma State


March 12, 2017

Michigan won the Big Ten Championship and will play Oklahoma State on Friday (LINK). As a #7 seed, they’ll face #10 seed Oklahoma State in Indianapolis at 12:15 p.m. There’s a Pick the Score thread on the message board (LINK).

I don’t know how Michigan got a #7 seed. I was expecting a #6 with a shot at a #5. I’m not sure how the selection committee looked at the way Michigan played over the last several weeks, watched them mostly tear through the Big Ten tourney, and then put them as a #7. I get they were sort of mercurial during the first two-thirds of the season, but every team has its ups and downs except the top few teams in the country.

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    Mike Knapp
    Mar 13, 2017 at 10:37 AM

    I can *almost* understand Michigan was a 7-seed in a vacuum, but I cannot understand how Michigan gets a 7 and Minnesota gets a 5.

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      Joined: 7/13/2015
      Mar 13, 2017 at 10:44 PM

      Yeah, I can see that a little bit. Minnesota isn’t going to last long, IMO.

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        Roanman
        Mar 14, 2017 at 9:11 AM

        They’re pretty big from top to bottom, play defense and take pretty good care of the basketball. All of those things help around this time of year.

        Losing Springs is big though and provides an inexperienced tournament team with an excuse, but they have more than a punchers chance here. If they get past Middle Tennessee State, they could play in the Sweet Sixteen.

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      Lanknows
      Mar 14, 2017 at 12:18 AM

      If nothing else Minn should have been downgraded a bit for losing their starting SG for the year. Putting them over UM and Wisc doesn’t make sense.

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    Lanknows
    Mar 14, 2017 at 12:15 AM

    The ranking doesn’t make any sense but Michigan’s is far from the worst. The ranking system is very dumb. I’d like to think the committee stuff is done to intentionally garner interest through controversy but it’s clear it’s just incompetence. At the very least they could at least be clear about their process. Ideally, at some point, they’ll just admit that as humans they can’t possibly process all the information that comes in over the course of a season and leave it up to a consistent formula. Instead we get “We look at a lot of things” non-explanation and an inconsistent potpourri of rationale for individual cases of over/under ranking. Not saying they have to use KenPom, RPI, or whatever else but they should probably start with some sort of mathematical ranking and then justify adjustments from there.

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      Lanknows
      Mar 14, 2017 at 12:55 PM

      What I mean to say is that the tournament should either try to ‘reward’ good teams for good seasons or they should just rank based on W-L resume. One or the other.

      If you are rewarding good teams you have to use the computer models to set matchups in order of difficulty, adjusting for injuries and recent play as needed. You can put a 1 seed up against Wisconsin or a 2 seed against UM/OSU.

      If you want to use W-L resume (RPI), that’s fine too, but then you are going “most deserving” not “best” and you are going to screw some teams over. In that case don’t pretend like you are doing some sort of comprehensive evaluation to give better teams better draws, just say you ranked based on resume and didn’t take things like “momentum” or “injuries” into account.

      As is, it’s almost irrelevant if you’re 6 through 11 seed and most 10 seeds are clearly better off than 8 seeds.

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