MLive: Michigan favored by nearly 2 TDs in showdown with Michigan State

MLive: Michigan favored by nearly 2 TDs in showdown with Michigan State


October 1, 2017

Michigan starts out as almost a two-touchdown favorite (LINK). What are your early thoughts on how the game will go?

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    je93
    Oct 02, 2017 at 12:45 AM

    I hope I’m wrong as Lank about speight, but I foresee an infuriatingly boring game, 13-6 MICHIGAN

    • Lanknows
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      Lanknows
      Oct 02, 2017 at 10:08 AM

      You sound bitter. Your feelings are important. I hope thinks are OK for you.

      • Lanknows
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        Lanknows
        Oct 02, 2017 at 10:08 AM

        things

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        je93
        Oct 02, 2017 at 10:21 AM

        Just a friendly ribbing Lank

        I do recall though, this OL getting Speight hit & injured was my preseason hottake that you scoffed at

        • Lanknows
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          Lanknows
          Oct 02, 2017 at 10:24 AM

          I don’t remember scoffing at anybody’s negative OL takes.

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            je93
            Oct 02, 2017 at 10:26 AM

            Perhaps it was because I said the later it happened (but it would) the more likely Peters comes in, and keeps the job 😓

            • Lanknows
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              Lanknows
              Oct 02, 2017 at 2:52 PM

              Right. Peters over O’Korn was the part I took issue with.

              I do think baptisim by fire may be what’s best for Peters. But what’s best for him is probably not best for the team.

    • Lanknows
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      Lanknows
      Oct 02, 2017 at 10:11 AM

      It is a shame we’ll never get an answer to the Great Speight Debate… Maybe next year.

      • Lanknows
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        Lanknows
        Oct 02, 2017 at 10:24 AM

        Or maybe the 2019 NFL draft.

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      michymich
      Oct 03, 2017 at 7:11 PM

      That is what I see. Harbaugh and staff would be wise to open it up in the 1st half and not wait but I see the staff as trying to rely on their defense.

      Close game.

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    WindyCityBlue
    Oct 02, 2017 at 7:12 AM

    State will play as dirty as possible. I look for them to take every cheap shot and late hit they can get on O’Korn, to try to knock him out of the game in the first half. If it costs them a few 15 yard penalties, or even a score and a couple suspensions, they won’t care. They have nothing to lose here. Holding and pass interference as often as possible as well.

    • GKblue
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      GKblue
      Oct 02, 2017 at 9:01 AM

      Doesn’t it seem like Dantonio’s MO to trade penalties for disruption and turnovers? He doesn’t have the athletes we do so if he can use chaos to effect on our offense he will.

    • Lanknows
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      Lanknows
      Oct 02, 2017 at 10:09 AM

      Par for the course.

      I thought this game was a slam dunk a couple weeks ago but I would take the points here TBH.

      • GKblue
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        GKblue
        Oct 02, 2017 at 10:34 AM

        Because of the rivalry and concerns about our offense I always figured it would be more of a late round TKO as opposed to a slam dunk. So you won’t be anywhere near alone taking the points LK.

  3. crazyjoedavola
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    crazyjoedavola
    Oct 02, 2017 at 8:05 AM

    This should be a very close low scoring game. MSU always shows up for this one.

  4. Lanknows
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    Lanknows
    Oct 02, 2017 at 10:10 AM

    I am suddenly very glad this game is at home.

    Between Speight injury and MSU playing Iowa so well this one is back on the worry list for me.

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      je93
      Oct 02, 2017 at 10:25 AM

      Iowa tried their best to give that game away. Even when trying to clock the ball on the final play, Stanley mishandled the ball… The play was offset my a false start… They screwed up like that all day
      Sparty D looked better than anything we’ve seen this year, but their O looked pretty bad

      • Lanknows
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        Oct 02, 2017 at 2:57 PM

        Looked pretty good the first few drives.

        I think MSU is a lot better than UM fans expected – an ongoing theme under Dantonio. Not excluding myself here. Their O doesn’t look strong but was good enough to move the ball on Iowa when they needed to.

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          michymich
          Oct 03, 2017 at 7:13 PM

          UM fans should have learned by now that Dantonio is a great coach and he will get every ounce out of his team plus they still have some players. Last year was an anomaly.

  5. Lanknows
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    Oct 02, 2017 at 4:50 PM

    Time to talk about expectations for O’Korn going forward. I expect something between Indiana and Purdue. That’s a big range though – so let me dig a little deeper.

    I have heard the argument that O’Korn made a big leap forward several places. As I have heard that Speight regressed. I don’t buy either. I think both guys got a little bit better, even if the on-field results didn’t reflect it in 3 games of speight and 1 game of O’Korn.

    The same people saying Speight couldn’t get better because he was old and this is his third year on campus with Harbaugh — same logic should go for O’Korn. I don’t agree with this logic, but I do think there is a cap on reasonable improvement that applies in the vast majority of cases. In other words, I think the larger argument of “he is who he is” applies with some allowance for reasonable improvement.

    BUT – I am also a big believer in the urgency of the moment for guys headed into their finals seasons. I think a 5th year senior may be more inclined to step up than a 4th year junior with another year ahead of him.

    I do believe the 2 were close enough to make it a competition and I do believe that O’Korn could have improved while Speight stagnated under OL duress. Maybe Speight was shook. Maybe O’Korn is hungrier. Etc.

    Still – It’s hard to shake what insiders said a few weeks ago — Speight was never really threatened this offseason for QB1.

    All of that is to say, I think it’s plausible that there may not be much dropoff from the starter to the backup. Part of this is the coaches figuring things out. But I do not expect significant improvement from 7.7 ypa, 140 QBR, 18TD to 7 INT (Speight 2016) or 7.8 ypa, 142 QBR, 20TD and 9 INT (Rudock 2015) even though O’Korn is off to an 11.3 ypa start and 170 QBR. Indeed, O’Korn’s career numbers at Michigan are exactly in line with Rudock/Speight’s starting seasons: 7.8 ypa, 143 QBR.

    Can O’Korn stay there? To get to around 7.7 ypa and 140 QBR will be a tall task with the non-conference games complete. There are 8 left. PSU, Wisc, and OSU will be very difficult challenges, Indiana and MSU have quality defenses too. DJ Durkin has my respect. Minnesota – who knows. Rutgers is the only cupcake and even they have shown signs of improvement (though they were so awful last year it’s hard to know if that really matters).

    I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the better performance from O’Korn came against a far weaker defense. Given the level of competition we have ahead of us, I don’t think O’Korn will be able to match what Rudock/Speight in previous years. I do think he’ll be able to exceed the poor numbers Speight put up so far (7.2 ypa, 122 QBR, 3 TD to 2 INT), mostly because I think Florida and Air Force defenses are better than people are giving them credit for and our coaches will get smarter about working around this OL’s issues.

    I think the QB play will be pretty similar to what we’ve seen the last 2+ years in aggregate, but I think the OL problems are too severe for O’Korn to really let loose and improve on them. Turnovers will be inevitable with so much pressure.

    My guess for O’Korn final numbers: 7.7 ypa, 138 QBR, 13 TD and 8 INT.

    Curious if anyone has different ideas in mind and is willing to make their own predictions about YPA, QBR, and TD-INT ratio for O’Korn.

    • Lanknows
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      Oct 02, 2017 at 4:52 PM

      As for what it means for the team… I think we can up the probability of a 7-5 or 8-4 season now, especially if O’Korn is hurt. I’m not sure the team’s ceiling is dramatically affected though, given Speight’s uninspiring start and O’Korn’s experience level.

      9-3 is still where we are headed, most likely. Though I think the odds of losing to Indiana or MSU have risen dramatically.

      If we win 2 of the next 3 I will consider that a significant success.

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      je93
      Oct 02, 2017 at 11:41 PM

      I’ll say this about AF Defense: New Mexico ran all over them… They aren’t that good

      • Lanknows
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        Lanknows
        Oct 03, 2017 at 2:00 PM

        Good point. Not very reassuring at all…

        my O’Korn projection might be optimistic…

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      michymich
      Oct 03, 2017 at 7:23 PM

      Speight got better? You have to factor in the team around him but how can you say Speight got better because the actual game is the determining factor otherwise we would judge qb’s based on Hoke’s we had a great week of practice.

      There was no threat to the job because Harbaugh had settled on a returning starter. I said, as others said last year, that people were dreaming if they thought anybody but Speight was going to be the starter. It was already settled and although JOK had a nice pass in the FL game he still looked like a distant competitor. PU may have been the start of something. I need to see more.

      Now to your overall point. You are inferring indirectly that Speight is the better qb. I saw the better qb play the majority of the game at PU. It may turn out that was a performance outlier but you keep trying to make the point that based on what we have on the field that Speight is just heads and shoulders above JOK. This was definitely true last year but no where we are right now assuming Speight was healthy.

      Will JOK put up Rudock numbers? I doubt it. Will JOK put up last year’s Speight numbers? Probably not but possible. Talk to me after MSU. I have no idea of what to project for JOK but I don’t agree with your assessment that Speight is a definitively better qb than JOK showed

      • Lanknows
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        Oct 03, 2017 at 8:13 PM

        I’m assuming Jim Harbaugh is picking the better player as starter. I don’t think I’m “inferring indirectly”. Not to say he’s infallible but most of the time he is right, based on how the backups look when they come on in meaningful situations (e.g., Bushel-Beatty, Metellus, 2016 O’Korn) and good old nature common sense.

        I never said Speight is “just heads and shoulders above JOK”, I said he was probably better but admitted that O’Korn earned more time with his performance against Purdue.

        I don’t agree it was “definitely true” last year anymore than I think it’s definitely not this year.

        Speight and Rudocks numbers were nearly identical so I’m not sure about the distinction you are drawing.

        • Lanknows
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          Oct 03, 2017 at 8:35 PM

          BTW: For all the talk about Rudock being exellent he was a barely adequate game manager in the 2015 loss to MSU. Michigan tried to play it safe there too.

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            Oct 03, 2017 at 8:52 PM

            Rudock was excellent during the second half of the season. I’ve never seen anyone argue that he was great from beginning to end. He was adequate overall during the first half of the year. It’s not too surprising that a guy who’s new to the team isn’t great right off the bat.

            15/25 for 168 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs

            • Lanknows
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              Lanknows
              Oct 03, 2017 at 11:53 PM
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                Oct 04, 2017 at 7:43 AM

                Okay, MSU was game 7 out of 13. You got me there.

                Regardless, what’s your point? Rudock was okay during the first half of the year, and then he was excellent in the final six games of the year. Trevor Knight didn’t complete 60% of his passes until week 8. Nobody’s claiming Rudock was great from week one.

                You keep bringing up OSU as a bad game, when Rudock completed 59.4% of his passes for 8.4 yards/attempt, 1 touchdown, and 0 interceptions. His PER was 138.73 against OSU. The only times Speight has topped that PER in his career have been against UCF, Illinois, Maryland, and Cincinnati. So if we assume those numbers are bad when you’re playing a team that went 12-1, then why are you so loathe to say that Speight has been bad?

                BTW, I’m not saying Speight is a bad QB. I’m (still) just pointing out that you are going to extreme measures to denigrate Rudock and prop up Speight for some reason.

                • Lanknows
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                  Lanknows
                  Oct 04, 2017 at 12:29 PM

                  Look at a guy like Tom Brady – as proven and stable as they come – and his stats still vary significantly from month to month. 9.8 ypa last october and 7.2 ypa last november, for example.

                  https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTo00/splits/2016/

                  The year before his YPA went down every month. Was that a trend?

                  2014 was the inverse of 2016. YPA of 5.8 in Sept and 8.8 in Oct.

                  That’s in the NFL where there is way more consistency and far less discrepancy in competition level, scheme, etc.

                  You can make up narratives about why these things happened or you can accept that any number of things can change from game to game that will affect results, even for an indisputably great player.

                  That’s why I try to look at bigger sample sizes (like full seasons), take context into account, and not get caught up in a game or two. I try not to buy into trends that don’t seem to make sense intuitively.

                  The idea that I’m using stats blindly is the exact opposite of the truth. I’m watching the games and looking at stats and drawing my own conclusions. When people start talking about their feelings and benching people who I think are good or trying to creative narrative that don’t make any sense, I look to numbers to provide evidence to prove my points. I also look at the numbers (smart ones in particular) and try to think about where my ideas/emotions/reactions might be wrong too.

                  LOL “extreme measures”
                  I’ve always thought Rudock and Speight were similarly solid. I’m disagreeing with your narrative that Rudock was so much better than Speight as soon as the poor 5th year vet just managed to get his feet under him.

                  I think there’s a good chance we’re just trying to rationalize randomness here. As Brady’s number show – randomness affects anyone.

                  So no – I’m not denigrating Rudock. I’m pointing out the reality that he had his struggles too. This is including OSU where yes, his numbers were suitably efficient — but the results on the field were atrocious. Michigan needed far more than ‘efficient’ but Rudock wasn’t up for the job. You call this part of his ‘excellent’ run. I don’t agree. He was very far from excellent that game. Avoiding mistakes is often enough – in that case it wasn’t even close.

                  So let’s be clear about what I’m saying: that Rudock and Speight were similarly solid. You’re saying that Rudock was playing excellent and Speight was playing bad. But I’m the one going to extremes…

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                  Oct 04, 2017 at 1:02 PM

                  That’s not what I’m saying at all, but I’m tired of arguing.

                • Lanknows
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                  Oct 04, 2017 at 12:41 PM

                  The point of citing those other guys was to illustrate that it’s not a typical experience for 5th year grad transfers.

                  Your explanation is plausible. But you’re treating it like an obvious thing -“no surprise” -rather than what it is: speculative rationalization for uneven performance.

                  To really answer if this is a thing for 5th year QBs I’d really want to see a bigger data set. Maybe there’s something to it. Given that non-conference schedules are typically outliers (both for power conference teams who play easier schedules and minor conference teams who play harder schedules) I think you’d really struggle to demonstrate that such a trend is “no surprise”.

                  So, it’s just as plausible that Rudocks uneven performances were explained by completely typical variance.

                  The team’s struggles to score against MSU and OSU despite an “excellent” QB, 3 NFL receivers, and at least 4 NFL linemen (including 4 seniors), and 10 offensive touches from Jabril Peppers (against OSU alone).

                  On the side of excellence is boming a disinterested Florida team, terrible defenses at Indiana and Rutgers. He was just OK, perhaps even middling, against PSU, Minnesota, OSU, MSU.

                  This is all without touching the 1st half of the season.

                  This is all expected for a guy with his season numbers! It’s not denigrating Rudock, unless you are trying to make something out of Rudock that he is not…

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    INTJohn
    Oct 02, 2017 at 8:42 PM

    Michigan has a great opportunity to put an end to any hope of Dantonio of having anymore decent recruiting success.

    DanToenail has made it a priority to get the best in-state Michigan recruits to go to MSU and while Harbaugh has turned that tide he hasn’t yet slammed the door shut and put a lock on it.
    A DECISIVE victory this Saturday by the Wolverines will pretty much accomplish a door slam with lock of any remaining hope for DanToenail to convince any of the best instate talent to attend MSU vs Michigan.
    DanToenail has another big concern as well; as his other major contributor to his recruiting success – the Ohio talent that the Buckeyes don’t have room for – will begin to stay in Ohio and play for Coach Fickell at Cincinnati rather than move to MSU.

    Its important for Michigan to not simply win this Saturday’s game vs MSU but to beat the Spartans in a decisive fashion as it will leave no doubt that MSU can no longer compete on the field vs Michigan little lone be victorious.

    As I See It……………..INTJohn

  7. Lanknows
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    Oct 03, 2017 at 3:14 PM

    The line is down to 10 or 10.5 in most places. It was 20+ in the offseason and 2 TDs a few days ago.

    S&P still has us as 14 point favorites >75% chance of winning but that is clearly optimistic based on Vegas line moves. S&P is still weighting last year’s info (wise in general) but MSU seems to be significantly improved at least on D. S&P also doesn’t know our starting QB is out.

    Nervous about this one but home field and the bye week should help… at least in theory.

  8. Lanknows
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    Oct 03, 2017 at 3:16 PM

    Will be interesting to see what the o/u comes in at. I’m with others thinking it’s going to be low scoring. I can see both teams trying, without much success, to run the ball – especially the team that holds the lead.

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    INTJohn
    Oct 03, 2017 at 6:43 PM

    I’m curious as to why Harbaugh made it public that Sp8 would be out for ‘multiple weex’ when he has set precedent by not giving away info as to who a starting qb would be if there was a question in order to confuse opponents preparation.

    MSU (as well as future opponents) can now freely put all effort into JOK preparation………..

    Seems like another Harbaugh inconsistency.
    (Yes I’m keeping a record)………..INTJohn

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      michymich
      Oct 03, 2017 at 7:25 PM

      I don’t think anyone things Speight was going to play. Worst kept secret in college football. You will see Harbaugh go back to his ‘gamesmanship’ once Speight starts practicing again.

    • Lanknows
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      Oct 03, 2017 at 8:35 PM

      Because it doesn’t matter. Dantonio’s not going to prepare any differently for one guy than the other. He’s going to load up the box, stop to run, and attempt to solve his pass D problems with aggression. He’ll back off if the M QB makes him…. Or not.

      I can’t remember a Michigan RB doing anything significant to MSU since…well, Fitz Toussaint had a 38 yard run in 2012 I guess. That’s Dantonio’s focus.

      Speight hurt MSU last year. 9.8 YPA led to a commanding lead by halftime. MSU got called for PI repeatedly. Michigan did not punt until the 4th quarter. Harbaugh put the O in safe mode after that… I don’t think Dantonio ever backed off.

      • Umichjenks
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        Oct 04, 2017 at 2:00 PM

        Lol will you ever freaking stop trying to make us believe Speight was a good qb?!

        He was awful in that MSU game and threw a terrible pick to kill the momentum and stopped TE game from being a blow out. He was 16-25 for 244 yards.

        Speight did not have a good game since Maryland last year. Yea he played some good defenses, but played poorly vs UF, Cincy, Air Force, Purdue.

        You make it seem like Speight is the second coming of TB12. Great players rise up in big games and Speight folded in every big game. Only reason we didn’t get blown out of those games vs OSU, FSU, Iowa is bc of our elite defense.

        • Lanknows
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          Oct 04, 2017 at 2:24 PM

          No, I don’t think so. I plan to do it all offseason.

          Speight was really good against MSU. He was good in 2016 in general, particularly if you cut him slack for being injured and /or acknowledge that playing what is probably a historically difficult schedule is a significant handicap. He did enough to win against Colorado, Wisconsin, MSU, PSU, FSU, and OSU. He did enough to win a national title despite woeful run blocking. He could have done more. He wasn’t excellent. He was just solid. (With the exception of Iowa where he stunk.)

          In 2017 I will give you that Cinci was a bad game given the opponent. That you’re including Purdue – where he was sacked on 2 of 6 dropbacks, took a huge hit on an incompletion where McDoom probably ran such a horrible route on a 3rd (that he was benched for the rest of the game for) and completed two simple screens beyond that… just speaks to how obtuse your perspective is.

          I’ve NEVER said Speight was Brady. Not once. This is your delusion/fantasy. I’ve never even implied it.

          I have said Speight will be better than Rudock. I stand by that prediction. He was close as a sophomore. Lucky for me (and you, no matter if you don’t want to see it) Speight will be back next year.

          Hey, if O’Korn plays like he did against Purdue the rest of the year I will very gladly admit I was wrong, Harbaugh was dumb, and Speight sucks in comparison.

          I’m not even going to ask you to admit when you were wrong because what will happen is you will fade into the woodwork, like the people who went on and on about Peters this spring and summer but now suddenly think O’Korn is the one who will be better than our starter of the last year and a half. Or you will pretend that you had a more nuanced perspective while barking at how dumb my opinions are. Shoo fly.

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          michymich
          Oct 04, 2017 at 2:25 PM

          I have come to the conclusion that trying to dissuade LK from his position is utterly useless. You might as well just understand that UM would have won the Big Ten championship with Speight and every game UM loses this year including potentially on Saturday will be because Speight would have been the difference. It was only a matter of time before Speight would have gotten back to his Colorado performance.

          For the record, I like LK and he has his own perspective as do we all. It’s not the craziest position ever taken but he believes in stats. It’s his religion. He isn’t the only one. There are people who believe if you throw for ‘x’ amount of yards or your record is ‘x’ then you must have been good.

          I have a question for LK or anyone else on this board. If you believe in stats, did Rich Rod have a very good offense while at UM? Please feel free to answer Yes or No or give me your reasons and then I’ll respond.

          • Lanknows
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            Oct 04, 2017 at 2:40 PM

            Nope. You guys keep trying to turn my comments that have consistently said that Rudock and Speight were similarly pretty solid into something more.

            What I’ve actually said is that the OL is major concern and could undermine the whole thing. What I’ve actually said is that Speight disappointed me in not appearing to be improved in 2017. What I’ve actually said is that O’Korn was underrated.

            http://touch-the-banner.com/2017-season-countdown-47-john-okorn/

            What I’ve actually said (while INT John questioned why in the world Speight would throw 9 INTs) was that Speight would likely throw more this year.

            http://touch-the-banner.com/2017-season-countdown-1-wilton-speight/

            This is not about blind adherence to stats – it’s about the fact that Michigan was 10-3 last year (with the 3 losses each coming by less than 1 score) without a good run game in part because their QB was good at avoiding turnovers for most of the season.

            Yes, I expected Speight to be better than he was this year. That’s not based on stats – that’s based on people getting better with time. That’s based on Harbaugh choosing Speight over Peters, O’Korn, or the hyped-backup du jour.

          • Lanknows
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            Oct 04, 2017 at 2:47 PM

            Yes, the 2010 offense was good. It was not elite because, like most offenses, it was shut down by elite defenses. S&P ranked them 18th in the country. That feels about right. The defense was atrocious.

            Youth was probably a factor The 2010 offense was good enough that next year’s version, returning nearly whole, was still pretty good despite the degrading offensive philosophy and coaching of Borges-Funk-Hoke (none of whom are doing one impressive thing at the moment).

    • Lanknows
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      Oct 04, 2017 at 2:54 PM

      I like getting the outside perspective, but the problem with that is that it’s usually superficial. I think that’s mostly true here. I did think the part about ways to attack Michigan was interesting:

      “The best way to beat the Wolverines is to use their aggressiveness on defense against them. Get them peeking in the backfield and flowing with Darrell Stewart’s jet sweep motion and then hit them up the middle with one of the running backs, and vice versa. Counters and misdirections can hurt the Wolverines if blocked well enough, and if the offensive line and running backs can hold in pass protection, there will be openings for Lewerke to throw in the areas vacated by linebackers and safeties on blitzes. ”

      I would certainly add screens to this equation, but I haven’t watched enough of MSU to know if they can’t execute them as well as Cinci did.

    • Lanknows
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      Oct 04, 2017 at 2:55 PM

      The player quotes are interesting too. They certainly expect a 3-3-5. I wonder if Brown will throw them a curve with more Mone – as some have speculated.

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