MLive: Yes, Harbaugh knows his record against Michigan’s rivals isn’t good

MLive: Yes, Harbaugh knows his record against Michigan’s rivals isn’t good

October 10, 2017

Jim Harbaugh is 1-4 against Michigan State and Ohio State, it’s true (LINK).

I’ll pose this question, and you can only pick one: Would you rather…

  • …go 10-2 but lose to Michigan State and Ohio State?
  • …go 8-4 but beat Michigan State and Ohio State?

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  1. Klctlc
    Comments: 63
    Joined: 8/11/2015
    Oct 10, 2017 at 11:21 PM

    8 and 4. Easy you are not winning national championship or big ten either way. Plus osu has been kicking our ass for so long it is getting old.

  2. Comments: 162
    Joined: 12/19/2015
    Oct 10, 2017 at 11:45 PM

    Is this when the Millenial Chevy ad guy comes out and tells us we can have both with the “New Award Winning Chevy Malibu”?

  3. GKblue
    Comments: 275
    Joined: 8/11/2015
    Oct 11, 2017 at 5:53 AM

    Given the choice as posed and without further info I imagine this scenario:

    10 – 2 We have a strong competetive team and we beat the Wiscys, Psu, ND or whoever, but failed against our biggest rivals. Choke.

    8 – 4 We have some real team issues; maybe a poor QB, an unsettled OL, maybe massive injuries. All of these are fixable or temporary, how do I know? When we came up against or biggest rivals we gave it every thing we had, our best efforts and coaching and we won head held high, with chest thumpin’ pride.

    So 8 – 4 it is but I ain’t happy about it. Wait until next year.

  4. Comments: 1154
    Joined: 8/13/2015
    Oct 11, 2017 at 7:04 AM

    Yeah, I’m taking 8-4 because neither scenario gets you to the promised land.

  5. Comments: 8
    Joined: 2/23/2016
    Oct 11, 2017 at 10:08 AM

    8 and 4. Kind of describes the Bo/Moe/Carr era I remember fondly. Lose some games we should have won, but beat the rivals. I remember those rivalry wins so much better than anything else. And, yeah, 9-2 is not getting us to the playoffs.

  6. Comments: 36
    Joined: 9/18/2016
    Oct 11, 2017 at 6:30 PM

    10 and 2. Anything can happen in rivalry games but 10-2 means you’re probably pretty decent. 8 and 4 with the non-conference and some of the soft B1G teams means you’re not very good.

  7. Lanknows
    Comments: 3760
    Joined: 8/11/2015
    Oct 11, 2017 at 11:25 PM

    The grass is always greener. Right now, I think the majority would pick beating MSU and OSU. But if you were beating MSU and OSU while going 8-4 for years and years, I think you’d have a lot of people bitching about: JUST ONCE going to a major bowl, about how Harbaugh needs to be getting the team up for every game like he does for the rivals, about winning the ones you’re supposed to win, etc.

    I’m going to pick 10-2…but only because we already lost to MSU.

    Next year? I’d want to see how this year plays out first.

    Go Blue!

    • GKblue
      Comments: 275
      Joined: 8/11/2015
      Oct 12, 2017 at 8:37 AM


      You post so much here that your comebacks are becoming a side game. I actually laughed at “The grass is always greener.” The genius just hit us with a kind of yogism then went on to be the opposite man himself.

      Everything you said is likely true if the question as posed is over multiple seasons. I didn’t read it that way, providing a single season scenario. Interesting differences in perspectives.

      Now, if Thunder had posed this as a single season question during the bye week and we hadn’t played MSU yet I read you as 8 – 4. But of course you won’t admit that.

      • Lanknows
        Comments: 3760
        Joined: 8/11/2015
        Oct 12, 2017 at 11:01 AM

        I think I don’t understand. Why wouldn’t I admit it? By saying “ask me later” I’m acknowledging either answer as valid from my perspective. In other words I’m on the proverbial fence. At this point – both sides look greener.

        “the grass is greener” is a commonly used shortening, in my experience anyway. I wasn’t trying to be clever here, just looking at it from multiple perspectives. Thunder didn’t say this year or next year specifically, so it’s a good open-ended question.

        • GKblue
          Comments: 275
          Joined: 8/11/2015
          Oct 12, 2017 at 11:10 AM

          It is called humor. Lighten up. “Interesting differences in perspectives.” I said that, I meant that.

  8. Comments: 4
    Joined: 9/28/2015
    Oct 12, 2017 at 1:58 AM

    Easy choice for 8-4.
    Honestly, I was just being polite when referring to MSU as a rival 10 years ago. Now there’s no fakery to it.
    We really need to start winning these. Enough already with the bad luck games and the being outplayed games.

    That said, I’d rather finish 11-1 every year and split with OSU/MSU than either of the other options.

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