MLive: Yes, Michigan players heard the boos vs. Cincinnati

MLive: Yes, Michigan players heard the boos vs. Cincinnati


September 11, 2017

People were booing in the stadium last Saturday (LINK), and I can honestly say I’ve never booed anyone at an athletic contest, including opponents.

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19 comments

  1. Comments: 904
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    Roanman
    Sep 12, 2017 at 6:45 AM

    I said it at MGoblog, I’ll say it here too.

    People who boo college football players are morons, regardless of where they obtained their degree.

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    je93
    Sep 12, 2017 at 6:51 AM

    You probably have too much class to do so!

    “I can honestly say I’ve never booed anyone at an athletic contest, including opponents”

  3. GKblue
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    GKblue
    Sep 12, 2017 at 9:06 AM

    One of the problems of a crowd expressing frustration in the form of a boo is the lack of specificity. If I jump up and scream, “oh come on!” to a play call that everyone knew was coming and resulted in a loss of yards, all the players will hear is the noise.

    For a long time folks complained about the lack of passion amongst the genteel crowd in The Big House, now we have boos after back to back 10 win seasons.People want and expect the best we can do on the field; that is expected and normal. But people do not exhibit a societal and behavioral governor anymore especially on social media and increasingly in public.

    I am not happy with the turnovers coming from the QB, or the progress of our OL. But guess what? Before the season I was most concerned about these positions along with our DBs and freshman mistakes. Patience ain’t always easy. How is none of this expected to the point where fans are trashing our own players and coaches already?

    Do I want to see Peters get some snaps, yes. Do I want a mean ass no quit lineman that also has discipline? Yes, think Ulizio! Do I expect more from JH and especially Drevno, yes.

    I live in part for my UM football on Saturdays. End of rant, sorry.

  4. DonAZ
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    DonAZ
    Sep 12, 2017 at 9:21 AM

    >> “One of the problems of a crowd expressing frustration in the form of a boo is the lack of specificity.”

    This is true. My sense is the booing is really more aimed at the coaches. There may be some in the stands who are booing a specific player, or the players in general. But in general the frustration is against the coaches.

    I recall one game back around 1990 or 1991 — I think it was 1990 against Iowa – where Michigan lost due mostly to some really, really passive play calling by Gary Moeller. When the game was over I stood on the seat and expressed my … um … displeasure with the coaching. But I can say with certainty it was not directed at any player or players; it was aimed squarely at Gary Moeller.

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    Lanknows
    Sep 12, 2017 at 10:08 AM

    GKBlue makes an excellent point. Booing is dumb.

    The one possible exception I can think of is immediate reaction to a referee’s call. Usually those situations are clear and the message gets across. Maybe there are others but it has to be very limited and overtly obvious that you’re not booing the players – a tricky thing.

    I do sort of wish there was a football equivalent of the NBDL (G-League) or minor league baseball/hockey. You can understand why some fans view big time college football as semi-pro and treat the athletes accordingly. [Not to excuse the ugly behavior at all, just to point out the situation could be mitigated a bit.]

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    michymich
    Sep 12, 2017 at 12:18 PM

    I could see booing at a Pro event but definitely not college. I support people having the right to do it (insert Kaep) but consider it rude. I hope fans can refrain from doing this with Speight. We want him to play better and he is trying his best. He doesn’t deserve that and coach Harbaugh is the guy making the decision so maybe call in a radio show or write a letter to the Detroit News, etc.

    Please don’t boo. Please. I am begging you. Please don’t kneel or be disrespectful during the National Anthem which also makes you look like a prick even though people who think they are booing or kneeling think they have a valid reason and are doing something worthwhile.

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      Sep 12, 2017 at 1:16 PM

      The closest I ever came to booing was when I was at a Tigers game, and Omar Infante didn’t run out an infield hit. He would have been safe if he had sprinted, but he jogged and got thrown out by two steps. I was ready for him to be gone from the Tigers after that.

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        michymich
        Sep 12, 2017 at 1:27 PM

        Booing an effort seems reasonable. If a kid doesn’t put the effort in then they are usually taken out. I would love to hear from someone on the board who believes booing Speight or whomever is okay.

        Just another perspective. Obviously many people felt like it was o.k. Probably an emotional reaction to frustration or believing it would make him play better. I’ll defer to the coach yelling at him. This brings up another side issue of whether it’s okay for a coach to show up a kid on television. Remember Holtz back in the day?

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          Sep 12, 2017 at 1:39 PM

          I have no problem lighting up a kid on the sideline if it’s a question of behavior or effort. If someone’s being lazy or a butthole, the coach needs to let the player and the rest of the team know it’s not acceptable.

          If it’s a blown assignment, that’s a different thing. Nobody is TRYING to blow assignments, throw interceptions, fumble the ball, etc. When players screw that stuff up, they almost always know what they did wrong. And if they don’t know, then it needs to be explained to them.

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            CaptainKirk
            Sep 14, 2017 at 5:30 PM

            Thanks for extolling common sense, Thunder.

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          CaptainKirk
          Sep 14, 2017 at 5:27 PM

          Not when the effort comes from a “kid”, read a college student, not an NFL or other pro athlete. Very impolite and classless. Which when applied to another topic (impolite and classless) is what has become of Mgoblog the past year or so. The rudest, crudest and yes, most socially unacceptable have signed up on Brian’s blog and instead of witty banter and intelligent discourse, it’s laden with gutter language and hateful posters.

          While it’s a given that there are posters on both boards, the other one is so laden with doofuses, it tends to drown out the better posters. So sad…it’s as though Brian and crew have decided to the same direction of ESPN – more political driven to the left – while you have continued to provide excellent analysis of game play and of individual athletes.

          May “Touch the Banner” continue to grow and prosper, and yes Thunder, I will begin to look for purchases through links posted here on TTB, thereby putting my money where my mouth is.

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    Extrajuice
    Sep 12, 2017 at 5:31 PM

    I’m TOTALLY fine with booing. 95% of the time it’s toward the coaches anyway. And since most coaches have egos bigger than the internet it’s one of the few instances fans can voice their displeasure. We all know that no one will call out coaches in the media. They’re too afraid of being outcast for future stories. Therefore, what other forum can fans voice their opinions? Seems totally logical for someone spending $100 per ticket to be a little frustrated at some play calling. The multi-millionaire coaches/managers think they walk on water. It kind of reminds them that all games matter. Even Cincinnati. I’m sure the coaches are big boys and can handle it. The people who complain about coaches being boo’ed are the same ones who probably say, “you have to support our president, no matter what. He’s our president”. Welcome to the 21st century! Also, If you weren’t booing Millen, Morningweg, Marinelli, Schwartz and Mayhew, there is something wrong with YOU.

    As for booing players, not for that at all. However, there are some instance where I think it’s merited. For instance, Tyler Collins, Joe Nathan and Dominic Raiola flipping off the home crowd. It amazes me to this day that those guys weren’t boo’ed out of Detroit much sooner. I don’t go to many games but I did boo Jason Grilli in 2007 when he made a crotch grabbing gesture to the crowd while warming up in the bullpen. That guy was a douche.

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      michymich
      Sep 12, 2017 at 6:13 PM

      I appreciate your thoughts. Thank You. One question. How does a player or coach distinguish between fans booing a particular player (Speight in this instance) and Harbaugh?

      Sometimes I can tell who fans are booing especially during the DeBoring era. When it 2nd and 9 and the play call is a run.

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        Extrajuice
        Sep 12, 2017 at 8:50 PM

        I think the college coaches know why they are booing. The players can be a little sensitive about it but a good coach (position coach included) will pull them aside and remind them. It’s not the players fault the coach called for a single receiver crossing route that goes 1 yard when you need nine on 3rd down. The fans are booing the coaches, play selection or clock management, not the player themselves. In your scenario of Speight, it’s frustration from a lot of the expectation that Harbaugh gives us. Brandon Peters was picked in the Spring before Speight. He’s talked up Brandon Peters since he signed. The booing involved Harbaugh and company’s own making. Maybe having players drafted for a Spring game in your own locker room isn’t the best idea?

        Also, todays “millennial’s” are more prone to having their feelings hurt. Do you think the older, professional players like Alex Karras, Denny McClain or Steve Yzerman had their feelings hurt? Probably, but it’s about maturity and learning about the other side. Most professional players understand that people are spending a LOT of money on tickets, merchandise etc. It’s paying their salaries! The college guys haven’t paid for a $150 ticket to game, spent $85 on a jersey for their kid or even spent $25 for parking before. Everything they get is given to them. Free tickets for recruiting, free education, free plane rides for official visits. Once they mature they’ll understand why people get frustrated at games. They may realize why it’s the blue-collar way of getting your point across. I was greatly disappointed in Grant Newsome’s comments the other day. Also, I think another lineman shot off his mouth before he even knew what he was talking about.

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          Lanknows
          Sep 13, 2017 at 3:22 PM

          This is just…something.

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          je93
          Sep 13, 2017 at 7:11 PM

          I was disappointed that the Big House couldn’t get loud enough to intimidate the Bearcats, but mustered the energy to boo the home team

          “I was greatly disappointed in Grant Newsome’s comments the other day”

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    INTJohn
    Sep 12, 2017 at 10:25 PM

    Take it from an old special forces soldier here…….
    “There are no bad soldiers only bad officers…….”

    There are no bad Michigan football players……..
    only bad fuking coaches (coaching)

    For better or for worse; As far as that goes Harbaugh can own that Cincy game – own it!
    Most expensive paid college coaching staff in NCaa football; Earn your fuking salary Harbaugh & staff………… or doante it to something worthy.
    I’ll never boo a player but years ago I did tell a 3 star general to shove his bullshit up his ass!!
    Give me a face to face with Harbaugh i’ll tell that ball playin d the same. Like all ball players He doesn’t know nuthin bowt REEL Combat where mistakes mean sombody dies!.
    they didnt earn their money on the Cincy game………. Boo the fuking coaching staff they earned it! Waitin for Harbaugh to stand up & own it.

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      Lanknows
      Sep 12, 2017 at 10:33 PM

      FIRE HARBAOW!

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    michymich
    Sep 13, 2017 at 2:33 PM

    This Air Force game scares me. Their offense is so quirky and the UM offense isn’t reliable. I don’t know the spread but something tells me this is going to be a tough game.

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