Mailbag: What will it take to get Bri’onte Dunn?

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29Jun 2011
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Mailbag: What will it take to get Bri’onte Dunn?

Bri’onte Dunn (#25 with ball)

Assuming Bri’onte Dunn is waiting to see what the sanctions are prior to decommitting from OSU, how lenient will the penalty have to be to keep Dunn in the fold at OSU?

Bri’onte Dunn, the heralded running back from Glenoak High School in Canton, OH, has given every indication that his commitment to Ohio State depends upon how badly the NCAA punishes the Buckeyes for their transgressions.  He and his family maintain that he’s committed to the program, but I think that’s generally because he’s leery of seeming wishy-washy, drawing the ire of Ohio State fans, etc.  After all, if he commits to another school right now and then the NCAA only gives OSU a slap on the wrist, he’ll not only anger people by decommitting in the first place, but he’ll infuriate another fan base who hope to see him wearing their jersey.  For now he’s playing it safe, and I think that’s the smart thing to do.

Dunn’s father has suggested that a multi-year bowl ban will weigh heaviest on the decision.  If the Buckeyes are prohibited from participating in the postseason for three years, that could be Dunn’s whole college career.  Who wants to go play football where you might not ever play during bowl season?  Even though Dunn has the size and talent to make it to the NFL, some guys’ best accomplishments and legacies are built in bowl game performances.  When I think of Tai Streets, I think about his 4 receptions, 127 yards, and 2 touchdowns against Washington State in the Rose Bowl.  When I think of Adrian Arrington, I think about his 9 receptions, 153 yards, and 2 touchdowns against Florida in the Capital One Bowl.  Streets went on to a nondescript NFL career, and Arrington has seven career catches for the New Orleans Saints.

Recent rumors on message boards and from “insiders” have suggested that Dunn’s more and more likely to stick with his Ohio State commitment, but I think that’s partly because the NCAA investigation keeps getting elongated due to the new information popping up here and there.  The longer it takes for the NCAA to punish Ohio State, the better chance Dunn has of sticking.  And despite some obvious shenanigans regarding Terrelle Pryor’s use of loaner cars, no wrongdoing has been found yet.

Pryor, the other accused players, and the university are still on the hook for the selling of merchandise, the free tattoos, and the alleged selling of autographs; Jim Tressel is still on the hook for lying and playing dumb.  There’s a chance that the NCAA will say, “Well, Pryor left the school, and Tressel resigned, so here’s a stern look and wagging of the finger and don’t do it again.”

I think it’s more likely, though, that Ohio State gets a couple years of holidays off and the loss of a few dozen scholarships over the next few years.  USC got two years of bowl bans and 30 scholarship losses, but USC’s issues mainly involved one player (Reggie Bush) and an assistant coach.  Ohio State’s issues probably involve less money, but they were pervasive and involved the most visible employee of the university.  And by “employee” I mean Tressel, but I guess Pryor counts, too.

To answer your question more concisely, I think two years of bowl bans keep Dunn in Columbus.  Three years sends him elsewhere.  That doesn’t mean Dunn would necessarily come to Michigan, because he’s also been looking at Penn State.  But if I had to guess, I would say Michigan is #2 on his list if Ohio State’s program does indeed get blasted by the NCAA.

26May 2010
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I Bite My Thumb at You . . .

Alex Herron

As if the internet and the blogosphere weren’t already awash in news and opinions about Michigan’s proposed sanctions, I will toss my hat into the ring. And let me tell you, my hat smells like a hiker at the conclusion of the Appalachian Trail.

On Tuesday morning, the University of Michigan released its opinion on how it should flagellate itself. Essentially, it boils down to a few key components:

  • Michigan will lose 130 hours of football practice combined in 2010 and 2011.
  • Michigan will be on two years of probation.
  • Two quality control personnel will be banished from the staff. The other three will basically be banished from having anything to do with football-related activities.

In case you’re wondering about how long 130 hours is, the NCAA limit for “countable hours” is 20 per week. That’s essentially 6.5 weeks of practice spread out over two years, meaning the Wolverines will lose 3.25 weeks of practice each year through 2011. That may not sound like much, but ask any coach – any shortage of practice time is detrimental. Michigan is coming off two horrible seasons (3-9 in 2008, 5-7 in 2009) and still has a young team. They need all the practice time they can get.

The probation thing isn’t a big deal in and of itself. As long as Michigan keeps its nose clean for the next two years, it shouldn’t cause a problem. Unfortunately, due to Ed Martin stuffing $100 bills into Chris Webber’s baggy shorts back in the early ’90s, Michigan could be viewed as a repeat offender. If the University runs afoul of NCAA law again in the near future, it should be expected that Mjǫllnir shall come crashing down upon our heads.

As for quality control people, Alex Herron ruined any chances of ever working his way up the coaching ladder. Not only was he fired because he’s a liar, but he also spent extra time coaching Michigan’s players and they still sucked. Seriously, if you’re going to cheat, at least win at it. The only thing less effective than his extra coaching would be if Rafael Belliard used steroids.

Michigan’s proposal will be heard by the NCAA on August 13, which means Michigan fans have almost another three months to fret.

All of this nonsense sucks. As a Michigan fan, it’s disappointing. Frustrating. The lack of responsibility within the Michigan AD’s office was astounding.

And yet, too many Michigan fans have spent time passing the buck, saying “Everybody else does it, too!” That’s not a valid excuse (although Jonathan Chait disagrees). Not once in my life have I been awarded any kind of slack for that excuse. In fact, I learned at a fairly young age that such an excuse was ridiculous, self-serving, and completely lacking in the acceptance of responsibility. Sure, there are schools that do worse things. According to rumor, USC buys houses for recruits, and in the SEC, recruits get their very own stripper! And if they’re ever fully investigated (as USC is) and found guilty, they should be punished to the full extent of the NCAA’s law.

In the meantime, Michigan and its fans need to take their lumps. This entire investigation came about because of the Detroit Free Press, and they lied their way into luring the NCAA to Ann Arbor. Believe me, I hope the Free Press headquarters gets attacked by a giant alien dog fart.

But ultimately, this is the University of Michigan’s fault. They screwed up. They hired a guy (Alex Herron) with outsized aspirations and let him do his undercover coaching. They failed to interpret/enforce the CARA reporting procedures. The AD office employed a couple guys who couldn’t file reports at their bosses’ requests. Regardless of why the investigation was started, it turned up some damning facts.

So here we are. Michigan’s reputation has been sullied. Non-Michigan fans and national networks are cracking jokes at Michigan’s expense. Potential recruits are hearing the jokes and thinking twice about being interested in becoming a Wolverine. As Michigan fans, there’s nothing we can do except turn the other cheek, explain the situation to outsiders with the patience to listen, and hope that giant alien dog fart targets the Free Press soon.


Brian at MGoBlog proposes medieval punishment for the slackers who let this happen.

Bob Wojnowski at The Good Paper uses words like “measured” and “precise.” Meanwhile, The Bad Paper scrambles for a dictionary.

The Free Press offers their take.

David Brandon joined The Huge Show for an interview.

Dr. Saturday offers a slightly different perspective.

Adam Rittenberg at ESPN blabs about stuff. What’s got two thumbs and is glad his name isn’t Dave Brandon? This guy!