Nightly Roundup: April 19, 2019

Nightly Roundup: April 19, 2019


April 19, 2019

Mike Renner from Pro Football Focus compares Devin Bush, Jr. to Devin White, head-to-head (LINK).

Matt Miller from Bleach Report discusses some NFL draft rumors (LINK), including some talk about Rashan Gary that has been much discussed on this site: “Teams are afraid of betting on a player with potential who didn’t produce stats. At 6’4″ and 277 pounds, Gary is an elite athlete, but he notched only 3.5 sacks in 2018 and just 9.5 in his three years as a Wolverine.”

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  1. 17years
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    17years
    Apr 19, 2019 at 10:41 PM

    PFF is high on Chase Winovich. They say he should be taken in the 1st round.
    Video at link:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmXjS4W0XNI

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      WindyCityBlue
      Apr 20, 2019 at 8:38 AM

      He probably won’t be, but I think he will end up being a steal for someone.

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    je93
    Apr 19, 2019 at 10:56 PM

    We’re closer to Iowa than ohio – that’s telling. Closer to Stanford than ohio; the Farm was a dumpster fire when JH joined

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    peterfumo
    Apr 20, 2019 at 9:37 AM

    Wisconsin being that high up shows me that that program knows how to identify talent and develop it. Impressive.

  4. Lanknows
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    Lanknows
    Apr 20, 2019 at 10:07 AM

    A few Gary-related thoughts as the production meme spreads beyond the realm of those who watch Michigan football:

    Miller notes concerns about injury and production but does not connect the dots.

    I think the injury concerns are probably a bigger deal. Would not surprise if he needs surgery. But is it a long-term thing? Was it exacerbated by playing through it rather than pulling a Bosa?

    I was not impressed by the “little sister” comments. That said, I’m glad Gary seems proud and engaged with Michigan football as a young alum. Good to have a future all-pros (potentially) have a good relationship with the program rather than say Ty Law.

    It is interesting that age comes up quite often in draft coverage in other sports but rarely gets mentioned in football. Is it less of factor in football or are analysts (and scouts?) sleeping?

    If you work for a team that owns a top 5-10 pick and you hope to take a young DL with limitless upside are you going to tell the media that? Or are you going to feed the memes and talk about a QB?

    We’ll see what happens, of course.

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      WindyCityBlue
      Apr 20, 2019 at 12:30 PM

      So now it’s that lots of teams are dying to pick Gary in the top 10, but are playing 11-dimensional chess with the other teams? Whatever. Aside from the fact that everyone knows very well what every other team’s needs are, this is based on the theory that teams are afraid someone else will take Gary ahead of them if they show too much interest in him. The problem with that is that no sane organization picks guys they don’t want or need just to keep someone else from getting them.

      And if Gary was such a hugely talented and productive college player, why does he still have “limitless upside”? That’s a phrase used to describe guys who haven’t done much on the field yet.

      • Lanknows
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        Lanknows
        Apr 21, 2019 at 7:16 PM

        no

    • 17years
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      17years
      Apr 20, 2019 at 7:12 PM

      Rashan Gary did not play like a 1st round pick.

      • Lanknows
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        Lanknows
        Apr 21, 2019 at 7:15 PM

        I wonder how many 1st rounders would meet it your criteria.

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          WindyCityBlue
          Apr 22, 2019 at 6:35 AM

          By definition, at least as many as there are picks in the first round.

  5. Lanknows
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    Lanknows
    Apr 20, 2019 at 10:10 AM

    The since 2000 recruiting numbers are interesting. I think having 4 coaches in the last 20 years has hurt Michigan in this regard.

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      WindyCityBlue
      Apr 20, 2019 at 12:38 PM

      Miami has changed head coaches 5 times since 2000. USC has had 4, LSU 3, FSU 3. We’re not that different. Our coaches just haven’t been that good at player development.

      • Lanknows
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        Lanknows
        Apr 21, 2019 at 7:22 PM

        True that the total doesn’t tell the whole story. There’s probably a better way to frame the impact in that Michigan has experience by spreading out the turmoil over multiple regimes. Nobody at Michigan has come close to the long run that Pete Carrol had at USC.

        …though Harbaugh’s well on his way.

      • Lanknows
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        Lanknows
        Apr 21, 2019 at 7:24 PM

        As for Miami I looked it up and they are indeed still located in Florida, which probably helps them keep hiring head coaches with elite player development skills.

  6. Lanknows
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    Lanknows
    Apr 20, 2019 at 10:18 AM

    “Bush had all of 11 missed tackles his entire college career.”

    Given how many snaps he saw and plays he made that’s highly impressive.

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    Jetski
    Apr 20, 2019 at 12:43 PM

    I’m amazed Texas is so far down the list with the insane amount of in-state, can’t-miss talent. And it hasn’t been all bad for them in this period either, with the National title in 2005 and divisional championships in 2001, 2002, 2005, 2008 and 2009. Talk about doing less with more.

    • Thunder
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      Apr 21, 2019 at 6:28 AM

      Texas talent gets spread out a lot, though, from Texas to Oklahoma to LSU to Stanford to Florida to Texas A&M. The Longhorns used to get whoever they wanted from within the state, but that hasn’t been the case for a while now.

    • Lanknows
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      Lanknows
      Apr 21, 2019 at 7:30 PM

      They had a really interesting recruiting situation going on in the aughts, where they basically got whoever they wanted in-state with relatively rare exceptions. But they elected to make those decisions very early in the cycle and ended up missing on a lot of elite players. Back then people didn’t get pushed out of classes often either. It could have been talent identification, recruiting approach, or both but things were definitely not optimally executed late in Mack Brown’s tenure.

      Not saying development wasn’t an issue either but nobody squandered a better home-turf recruiting situation than Texas IMO.

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