Poll results: Who will be the best offensive lineman in the 2013 class?

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11Apr 2013
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Poll results: Who will be the best offensive lineman in the 2013 class?

Wexford (PA) North Allegheny center Patrick Kugler

Patrick Kugler: 63%

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The freshman from Wexford (PA) North Allegheny played in the Under Armour All-American Game.  According to the 247 Composite rankings, he’s a 4-star, the #68 player nationally, and the country’s top center.  He will enroll at Michigan in June and potentially be a backup to whoever wins the starting center job this spring.  His father is a former professional offensive line coach who is now UTEP’s head football coach.


Kyle Bosch: 19%
Bosch is a 6’5″, 307 lb. player who enrolled in January.  He attended Wheaton (IL) St. Francis and was 247 Composite’s #3 offensive guard and #87 overall prospect.  In spring practice videos, he has appeared to be running with the second team at offensive guard.  He may factor into the playing rotation in the fall.


David Dawson: 12%
The Detroit (MI) Cass Tech prospect stands 6’4″ and 280 lbs.  He’s the 247 Composite’s #4 offensive guard – one spot below Bosch – and their #95 player overall.  Dawson also played in the Under Armour All-American Game.


Chris Fox and Logan Tuley-Tillman: 1% (tie)
Fox comes from Parker (CO) Ponderosa, while Tuley-Tillman hails from Peoria (IL) Manual; they were selected for the U.S. Army All-American Bowl and the Under Armour game, respectively, although Fox was unable to participate due to a knee injury.  Fox stands 6’6″ and 300 lbs. and was recruited to play tackle, while Tuley-Tillman enrolled in January and has been practicing at left offensive tackle, standing 6’7″ and 285 lbs.  Fox was 247 Composite’s #5 offensive guard and #111 overall player, and Tuley-Tillman was the #12 offensive tackle and #167 player overall.


Dan Samuelson: 0%
Plymouth (IN) Plymouth offensive guard Samuelson stands 6’5″ and 290 lbs.  According to the 247 Composite rankings, he’s the #21 offensive guard and #414 overall player in the nation.

14Feb 2013
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Final TTB Ratings for 2013

Maurice Hurst, Jr. made the biggest leap in
the final TTB Ratings

Here are the finalized TTB Ratings for the class of 2013.  Discuss!

Derrick Green – RB – Richmond (VA) Hermitage: 92 95
The more I think about the offensive line Michigan is building, the more I think Green is going to have a very good career in a winged helmet.  He could very well be the starter by his sophomore year, if not as a freshman.

Dymonte Thomas – S – Alliance (OH) Marlington: 92 89
I’m downgrading Thomas because I don’t know that he’s an All-American candidate, which is what a 90+ grade entails.  I think he will still be a very good player and turn into an all-conference player as a strong safety.

Kyle Bosch – OG – Wheaton (IL) St. Francis: 88
I’m going to leave Bosch right where he is.  He looks like an excellent guard prospect, and I like his nastiness.

Shane Morris – QB – Warren (MI) De La Salle: 89 87
Morris still has all the physical schools he has ever had – strong arm, decent athleticism – and has shown with his recruiting that he has some leadership skills.  It just seems like he has some limitations on seeing the whole field and making good decisions.

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Patrick Kugler – C – Wexford (PA) North Allegheny: 83 86
With a couple years between Jack Miller and Kugler, the latter should have at least a couple seasons as a starter.  I liked what I saw of him at the Under Armour All-American Game.

Chris Fox – OT – Parker (CO) Ponderosa: 90 85
Fox’s ACL tear concerns me some. He’s still a big body who’s pretty athletic, but I fear that this injury might put him behind some of the other linemen to begin..

Jourdan Lewis – CB – Detroit (MI) Cass Tech: 86 84
Lewis isn’t the biggest, strongest, or fastest recruit out there, but he shows good change of direction and ball skills.  I like him as a college cornerback, but he might be limited beyond that.

Jake Butt – TE – Pickerington (OH) North: 82
I’m leaving Butt right where he is. He’s not a “next generation” tight end who can run really fast and jump really high, but he’s a very solid prospect.  He should have no problem turning into a good blocker at the very least.

Ben Gedeon – LB – Hudson (OH) Hudson: 82 81
I still like Gedeon, but I have slightly more confidence in Butt as a prospect.  I like turning running backs into linebackers, and he has experience at both positions.

Da’Mario Jones – WR – Westland (MI) John Glenn: 79 81
As Michigan’s passing offense improves and they can find more ways to get the ball to receivers, I like Jones’s skill set more.  He’s not an absolute blazer, but he offers a dimension of speed that some other recent receiver recruits lack.

Henry Poggi – DT – Baltimore (MI) Gilman: 81 79
Watching Poggi in the Under Armour All-American Game, I still think Poggi looks like a good prospect for the college level – he played very well – but I’m not sure he’ll have the size or explosion to be a serious NFL prospect down the road.

Maurice Hurst, Jr. – DT – Westwood (MA) Xaverian Brothers: 73 78
I always liked Hurst’s athleticism, but I like his energy, too.  After seeing his senior highlights and his performance in the Semper Fi All-American Bowl, I think he has some potential to be a pretty good player down the road.

Csont’e York – WR – Harper Woods (MI) Chandler Park Academy: 79 77
York’s rating doesn’t change much, but I have less confidence in him than Poggi.  He still has considerable upside because he can go up and get the ball, but he’s not a dynamic athlete.

Taco Charlton – DE – Pickerington (OH) Central: 75 76
Charlton has the speed to stick at weakside end, but he keeps growing and growing. I wonder if at some point he might be too heavy to play WDE and end up as a strongside end. Considering some lacking technique, that could be troublesome.

Logan Tuley-Tillman – OT – Peoria (IL) Manual: 79 75
I’m downgrading Tuley-Tillman a little bit because he’s so raw.  He’s helped by the fact that he’s the only left tackle prospect in this class, but it’s tough to get a feel for him.  Pass protection is still a huge issue for him as he learns.

Mike McCray II – LB – Trotwood (OH) Trotwood-Madison: 74
This seems to be a pretty good spot for McCray. It’s unclear whether he’ll finally end up at SAM or MIKE. He’s a good athlete, but I have questions about his ability to read plays quickly.  I might be in favor of putting him at SAM, where he would be in a position to attack more often than having to read and react.

Channing Stribling – CB – Matthews (NC) Butler: 73
I thought about bumping up Stribling, but I just don’t think I can do it.  He showed his ability to make plays in high school, but I just don’t think he has the speed to be a dynamic player in college.  Most of Michigan’s good corners over the past 15 years or so have been fast or at least quick, but I don’t see that in Stribling.

David Dawson – OG – Detroit (MI) Cass Tech: 67 71
I’m bumping Dawson up a little bit, because I think he could be a starter later in his career.  Anyone who becomes a starter with the way Michigan is recruiting has to be pretty good player, but I don’t see a particularly high ceiling for him.

Delano Hill – CB – Detroit (MI) Cass Tech: 71 69
Hill has lots of physical talent, but if he were a great playmaker, he would have been rated higher by the recruiting services.  He seems to be a guy who could be a very good special teamer and earn spot duty in college, but he’s a man without a position – is he a corner or a safety? – and there’s talent at those spots already.

Wyatt Shallman – RB – Novi (MI) Catholic Central: 65
I think this is a pretty good spot for Shallman.  I don’t think he will ever be a starter at running back, although he could be a factor at fullback or U-back in the future.  He also has the ability to contribute on defense, but Shallman and the coaches have been insistent that he’ll play offense.

Ross Douglas – CB – Avon (OH) Avon: 63
Douglas was recruited to play slot corner, and when you combine that with his lack of great size, I think he’s somewhat limited when projecting him beyond college.  I think he could be a solid slot corner in the same vein as Brandon Harrison.

DeVeon Smith – RB – Warren (OH) Howland: 63
I thought about bumping Smith up because I truly believe that Michigan will be putting together some good rushing seasons in the coming years because of the offensive line, and not totally because of the talent of the running backs.  I do not believe Smith has the speed to be a dynamic running back himself, but he might put up good numbers as a backup and perhaps eventual successor to Green.

Reon Dawson – CB – Trotwood (OH) Trotwood-Madison: 62
Dawson does have some potential to outperform this ranking, but he’s behind some of the other guys in technical prowess.  The speed and size are there.  It just depends on how it all comes together.

Khalid Hill – TE – Detroit (MI) East English Village: 68 60
Hill can fill a role on this team, but he has talent ahead of him and his lack of speed or size sort of limits his upside.

Dan Samuelson – OG – Plymouth (IN) Plymouth: 65 59
I think Samuelson will be a quality backup down the road, who could make a spot start and be fine.  However, I think he’s someone who might get lost in the shuffle with the rest of the linemen Michigan is getting.

Jaron Dukes – WR – Columbus (OH) Marion Franklin: 70 58
Dukes didn’t have a great senior season, and I already had questions about him going into the 2012 season.  He doesn’t have great speed, and he doesn’t look like a lithe athlete who can make up for that speed deficiency with acrobatics.

Scott Sypniewski – LS – Ottawa (IL) : Incomplete
I don’t know enough about long snappers around the country to offer an opinion here.

12Feb 2013
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2013 Recruiting Awards

Derrick Green is dressed properly for the occasion

You can go ahead and glance back at my 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012 recruiting award posts.

Best Overall Recruit: RB Derrick Green
Green is widely considered to be the top recruit in Michigan’s class, and running backs are often fairly easy to scout.  Based on the way Michigan is recruiting the offensive line, I think there’s a good chance that Green becomes an All-Big Ten player and perhaps an All-American.  That kind of performance at a place like Michigan would likely set him up for a high NFL Draft pick.

Best Offensive Recruit: RB Derrick Green

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Considering the above paragraph, this is obvious.

Best Defensive Recruit: S Dymonte Thomas
Thomas is listed at 6’2″, 192 lbs.  He has good speed and shows excellent hitting ability.  I was particularly impressed with him as a hitter/tackler during the U.S. Army All-American Bowl.  I think his long-term potential might be somewhat limited because he hasn’t spent much time in coverage, and NFL teams love those ball hawks.  But as for playing strong safety in college, Thomas looks like an excellent prospect.  I’m excited about his future.

Recruit Most Likely to Make an Early Impact: RB Derrick Green
Until Green committed a couple weeks ago, I would have chosen tight end Jake Butt.  However, Green enters the program when Michigan is looking for a viable #2 tailback, if not a starter while Fitzgerald Toussaint recovers from his broken leg.  I don’t think it’s out of the question for Green to be the leading rusher in 2013.

Fastest Recruit: CB Delano Hill
Hill is a workout warrior who puts up good numbers, and while his speed doesn’t always show up on the field, he did have a laser-timed 4.44 time in the forty.  There really aren’t a whole lot of blazing-fast players in this class.  A couple of the cornerbacks – including Hill – might end up at safety, and a couple of the wide receivers are bigger, slower guys.  None of these guys has speed that jumps out at you, but there are a few guys who can scoot a little bit – Green, Hill, Thomas, Ross Douglas, Reon Dawson, and Da’Mario Jones.

Strongest Recruit: OG Kyle Bosch
Bosch is a big, thick kid who probably doesn’t need to add much size before seeing the field.  He enrolled early at Michigan, and insiders are already saying that he might be in line for a little bit of playing time as a true freshman.  While I’m not sure that will be necessary (unless there are injuries), it’s still a positive tidbit about his future.

Best Under-the-Radar Recruit: WR Da’Mario Jones
Jones is a 6’2″, 185 lb. receiver with good speed.  He needs some polishing, but his speed should allow him to be a deep threat a little more than several other guys on the roster.  When he committed to Michigan, he was sitting on several MAC offers and one from New Mexico.

Most Overrated Recruit: CB Delano Hill
Hill is a 4-star to three of the major recruiting sites (ESPN ranks him as a 3-star), but I think he’s closer to a 3-star prospect.  He is a very good athlete, but I’m not sure he has the football instincts and playmaking ability to justify those 4-star rankings.

Most Likely to Redshirt: OT Chris Fox
Fox, who tore his ACL toward the end of his senior season, will miss some developmental time while he recovers.  Additionally, Michigan returns both starting tackles (Taylor Lewan, Michael Schofield) and has a couple decent redshirt freshmen (Ben Braden, Erik Magnuson), so there’s not much need for Fox to play this year.

Personal Favorite Recruit: S Dymonte Thomas
Thomas was a two-way star in high school who put up excellent numbers on both sides of the ball.  He also seems to be a heady kid who reportedly improved quickly during the U.S. Army All-American Bowl, so I think he’ll be fun to watch.  Jordan Kovacs was fun to watch over the past couple seasons, and Thomas should eventually take that strong safety position and play at an even higher level.

22Jan 2013
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Rivals 250 for 2013 finalized

Jourdan Lewis (left, pictured with once and future teammate Delano Hill) jumped up to the #131 player in the nation

Rivals released its final top 250 players for the class of 2013.  The top 100 was released yesterday:  Here’s what the top 250 looked like on December 4.

Movement for Michigan players:

– Kyle Bosch fell from #99 to #104
– Dymonte Thomas fell from #107 to #109
– Mike McCray fell from #88 to #115
– Jourdan Lewis jumped from #147 to #131
– Chris Fox fell from #123 to #142
– Jake Butt fell from #141 to #144
– Taco Charlton fell from #231 to #237
– Ross Douglas fell from #238 to #241
– Logan Tuley-Tillman fell out of the top 250

Here are the rest of Michigan’s offerees

104. Kyle Bosch – OG – Illinois (Michigan)
106. Dorian O’Daniel – LB – Maryland (Clemson)
107. Elijah Daniel – DE – Indiana (Mississippi)
109. Dymonte Thomas – S – Ohio (Michigan)
110. E.J. Levenberry – LB – Virginia (Florida State)
112. Larenz Bryant – LB – North Carolina (South Carolina)
115. Mike McCray II – LB – Ohio (Michigan)
124. Isaac Rochell – DE – Georgia (Notre Dame)
127. Jake Raulerson – DE – Texas (Texas)
131. Jourdan Lewis – CB – Michigan (Michigan)
133. Cole Luke – CB – Arizona (Notre Dame)
139. Kameron Miles – S – Texas (Texas A&M)
142. Chris Fox – OT – Colorado (Michigan)
143. Maurice Smith – CB – Texas (Alabama)
144. Jake Butt – TE – Ohio (Michigan)
146. Michael Hill – DT – South Carolina (Ohio State)
147. Jake Oliver – WR – Texas (Texas)

149. Jon Reshke – LB – Michigan (Michigan State)
161. Joe Mathis – DE – California (Washington)
162. Hunter Bivin – OT – Kentucky (Notre Dame)
165. David Dawson – OG – Michigan (Michigan)
174. Darren Carrington – WR – California (Oregon)
175. Billy Price – DT – Ohio (Ohio State)
179. Tim Harris – CB – Virginia (Virginia)
181. Na’Ty Rodgers – OT – Maryland (South Carolina)
183. Jordan Cunningham – WR – Florida
186. Devon Allen – WR – Arizona
200. Kevin Olsen – QB – New Jersey (Miami)
202. Nadir Barnwell – ATH – New Jersey (Rutgers)
204. Jayme Thompson – S – Ohio (Ohio State)
209. Ishmael Wilson – OG – Texas (Texas A&M)
210. Sebastian Larue – WR – California
212. Ebenezer Ogundeko – DE – New York (Clemson)
213. Cameron Hunt – OG – California (Cal)
221. Jason Hatcher – DE – Kentucky (USC)
226. Chase Abbington – ATH – Missouri (Missouri)
237. Taco Charlton – DE – Ohio (Michigan)
239. Darius Latham – DT – Indiana (Wisconsin)
241. Ross Douglas – CB – Ohio (Michigan)
245. Darrell Daniels – WR – California (Washington)
249. Eldridge Massington – WR – Texas (UCLA)

16Jan 2013
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247 Sports: Top 247 finalized

David Dawson made a large jump in the new 247 rankings

247 Sports released its final top 247 prospects on Tuesday.  Here’s what it looked like back in November 2011 when it was originally released.  The following shows the movement for Michigan recruits since October:

– David Dawson jumped from #109 to #65
– Dymonte Thomas dropped from #67 to #80
– Shane Morris dropped from #19 to #81
– Patrick Kugler jumped from #157 to #97
– Henry Poggi dropped from #118 to #120
– Logan Tuley-Tillman dropped from #107 to #129
– Chris Fox dropped from #114 to #137
– Maurice Hurst, Jr. jumps from off the list to #190
– Mike McCray dropped from #181 to #194
– Ben Gedeon dropped from #179 to #199
– DeVeon Smith remained at #218

Here are Michigan’s offerees:

3. Laremy Tunsil – OT – Florida
4. Vernon Hargreaves III – CB – Florida (Florida)
5. Jaylon Smith – LB – Indiana (Notre Dame)
6. Eddie Vanderdoes – DT – California
10. Montravius Adams – DT – Georgia
11. Jonathan Allen – DE – Virginia (Alabama)
16. Su’a Cravens – S – California (USC)
18. Robert Foster – WR – Pennsylvania (Alabama)
27. Elijah Daniel – DE – Indiana
28. Laquon Treadwell – WR – Illinois
31. Kendall Fuller – CB – Maryland (Virginia Tech)
32. Alex Anzalone – LB – Pennsylvania (Florida)
33. Keith Ford – RB – Texas (Oklahoma)
42. Leon McQuay III – S – Florida (USC)
43. Hunter Bivin – OT – Kentucky (Notre Dame)
45. Eli Apple – CB – New Jersey (Ohio State)
47. Priest Willis – CB – Arizona
48. Adam Breneman – TE – Pennsylvania (Penn State)
50. Larenz Bryant – LB – North Carolina (South Carolina)
53. Joey Bosa – DE – Florida (Ohio State)
58. Alquadin Muhammad – DE – New Jersey (Miami)
60. Cameron Burrows – CB – Ohio (Ohio State)
65. David Dawson – OG – Michigan (Michigan)
72. Ethan Pocic – OT – Illinois (LSU)

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74. Chris Hawkins – CB – California (USC)
77. Cole Luke – CB – Arizona (Notre Dame)
80. Dymonte Thomas – S – Ohio (Michigan)
81. Shane Morris – QB – Michigan (Michigan)
84. Derrick Green – RB – Virginia
85. Ty Isaac – RB – Illinois (USC)
89. Evan Lisle – OT – Ohio (Ohio State)
94. Kevin Olsen – QB – New Jersey (Miami)
96. Elijah Qualls – DT – California (USC)
97. Patrick Kugler – OG – Pennsylvania (Michigan)
99. Tray Matthews – S – Georgia (Georgia)
103. Kyle Bosch – OG – Illinois (Michigan)
105. Justin Manning – DT – Texas (Texas A&M)
108. Taco Charlton – DE – Ohio (Michigan)
109. James Quick – WR – Kentucky (Louisville)
110. Wyatt Teller – DE – Virginia (Virginia Tech)
116. Demorea Stringfellow – WR – California (Washington)
119. Dajaun Drennon – DE – New Jersey (North Carolina)
120. Henry Poggi – DT – Maryland (Michigan)
121. Maurice Smith – CB – Texas (Alabama)
123. Darrel Daniels – WR – California (Washington)
125. Dorian O’Daniel – LB – Maryland (Clemson)
126. Sebastian Larue – WR – California
127. Isaac Rochell – DE – Georgia (Notre Dame)
129. Logan Tuley-Tillman – OT – Illinois (Michigan)
130. Darren Carrington – WR – California (Oregon)
131. Mike McGlinchey – OT – Pennsylvania (Notre Dame)
136. Steve Elmer – OT – Michigan (Notre Dame)
137. Chris Fox – OT – Colorado (Michigan)
141. Tim Harris – CB – Virginia (Virginia)
148. Gareon Conley – CB – Ohio (Ohio State)
152. Jake Oliver – WR – Texas (Texas)
155. Marquez North – WR – North Carolina
160. Darius Latham – OT – Indiana (Indiana)
162. Matt Rolin – LB – Virginia (Florida)
167. Jordan Wilkins – RB – Tennessee (Auburn)
172. Jake Raulerson – OC – Texas (Texas)
175. Greg Webb – DT – New Jersey (North Carolina)
180. Eldridge Massington – WR – Texas (UCLA)
183. Kameron Miles – S – Texas (Texas A&M)
186. Shaq Wiggins – CB – Georgia (Georgia)
188. Durham Smythe – TE – Texas
189. Devin Butler – CB – Washington, DC (Notre Dame)
190. Maurice Hurst, Jr. – DT – Massachusetts (Michigan)
194. Mike McCray II – LB – Ohio (Michigan)
199. Ben Gedeon – LB – Ohio (Michigan)
202. Justin Davis – RB – California (USC)
206. Josh Augusta – DT – Illinois
208. Nadir Barnwell – ATH – New Jersey (Rutgers)
209. Peter Kalambayi – LB – North Carolina (Stanford)
211. Jayme Thompson – S – Ohio (Ohio State)
216. Billy Price – DT – Ohio (Ohio State)
218. DeVeon Smith – RB – Ohio (Michigan)
221. Alvin Bailey – WR – Florida (Florida)
226. Kyle Hicks – RB – Texas (TCU)
233. Michael Hutchings – LB – California (USC)