Name: Ben VanSumeren
Height: 6’2″
Weight: 236 lbs.
High school: Essexville (MI) Garber
Position: Running back
Class: Redshirt freshman
Jersey number: #40
Last year: I ranked VanSumeren #39 and said he would be a backup fullback (LINK). He played in four games and redshirted.
TTB Rating: 78
There’s one thing I can say about myself that I can be proud of:
I’m no Skip Bayless.
The thing about these countdowns – and my review posts – is that I hold myself accountable and make it plain to see when I’m wrong. And I was very wrong about VanSumeren and, to an extent, Michigan’s offense last year. With Khalid Hill and Henry Poggi having graduated after the 2017 season, I thought Michigan would go right back to the fullback well with a heavy dose of Ben Mason and the next most fullback-y guy, VanSumeren.
That turned out not to be the case. Mason got some pretty good playing time, fifth year senior Jared Wangler played some, and VanSumeren redshirted while playing very little in four games.
Oops.
This spring VanSumeren saw some playing time at tailback, partly because there were a bunch of injuries and the suspension of Chris Evans. VanSumeren isn’t a classic running back, and it’s somewhat concerning that he was forced into such a prominent role, even if it was just practice. I think he will be relatively low on the depth chart, but I do think he will start to get some carries and perhaps some receptions in 2019.
Prediction: Backup running back
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FB is far too unnecessary and replaceable a position to have the backup ranked this high. Even more so if our offense really and truly becomes more speed- and pass-oriented.
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I don’t recall ranking a fullback this high in this year’s countdown.
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He’s a fullback. I recall someone trying to call Mason a RB last year, and that was no more the case than this. Even if he gets a few extra yards as a (slow) running start, he’s still a fullback.
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I just double-checked MGoBlue.com and…yep, he’s listed as a running back. Just like I said.
https://mgoblue.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=19086
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In defense of WCB the official roster does not distinguish between positions in many cases. e.g., Nobody is listed as a CB, DT, DE, or slot WR.
That said, there ARE 2 FBs listed including Mason (FB/DL).
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to be clear BVS is not one of the FB. He is a RB, as Thunder said.
IMO the error is there is listing Mason as a FB and not a RB, when he clearly played RB last year on many meaningful downs.
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Yeah, we had this discussion. It doesn’t matter where you line him up, or if he’s the only guy in the backfield. His longest gain of the year was 6 yards. He’s a FB. That’s his skill set and that’s how he’s being used.
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Harbaugh:
“Feel like the fullback will be used in short-yardage and goal-line situations, predominantly, so we want to get Ben Mason on the field as much as possible. He’ll be playing defensive line, along with playing fullback, along with playing tailback. Will be a lot on his plate, we’ll see how he can handle it. I think he’s going to handle it really well.”
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I think where he lines up is pretty relevant to what his position is.
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Let’s put it this way..He’s as much a RB as Wyatt Shalman was.
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This again? FB was largely fazed out of the offense last year. Gattis hasn’t indicated he will use them any more than Hamilton did.
RBs are players who line up in the backfield, block on most downs, sometimes carry the ball, sometimes go out for passes. Mason and BVS fit.
A big blocky RB can be a RB just like “primary”, “all purpose”, “3rd down”, “super”, and “speed” backs.
We don’t need to hold onto legacy naming conventions and we don’t need to have a depth chart that covers every rarely used package that Michigan throws out. [Who is the wildcat QB!?! who is the ballcarrier on jet sweeps?!?]
I’d apply this logic further than most (lump all WRs together, lump all safeties together, put the “SAM” in with the DEs, etc.). That reflects my preference for consistency and accuracy over false precision. In an era of so many different formations and packages and hybrid personnel moving around the field I see it as counterproductive to be too specific about positions.
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I kind of chuckled when I read this in that you are capable of applying specificity to any subject. I hope you aren’t going all ball-peen on us.
I actually prefer both general and discreet positional descriptors as to how these guys are used within reason. I am capable of understanding the nuances in football language.
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I’m certainly willing to dive into details, but I don’t like overly prescriptive categorization.
If someone wants to create a super detailed depth chart including every specialized role and formation, have at it. I think it’s incredibly difficult to maintain consistency and accuracy given massive disparities in position groups.
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I’ll believe that Gattis will be throwing the ball most of the time on 3rd and short when I see it.
If you want to know how Mason has REALLY been used, ask yourself how many times a RB has blocked for him, as compared to the number of times that he has blocked for a RB. If you’ve been watching the last couple years, you should have a pretty good sense of the discrepancy.
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This kid is jacked!
But yeah, we need better at RB
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re: “such a prominent role”
BVS is 3rd string at best but more likely 5th or 6th down on the list of ball carriers. While they will show up in the boxscore, these sort of backup RBs are easy to replace and rarely impactful unless they have a specialized skillset (short-yardage back, 3rd down back, receiving threat, etc.) Anybody can take garbage time snaps, from walk-on to freshman.
While I’m sure BVS will contribute in some way, I don’t see how he will make a big impact with Ben Mason on the roster and all the other options at RB.
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That’s really the point. The only impactful use of guys with his skill set will be with Mason.
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Howard Griffith on UM RBs:
“”Whoever knows how to pick up the pass protection schemes, whoever can carry the ball without turning it over and whoever can catch the ball a little bit out of the backfield is going to rise to the top,” he said. “All three of those areas are equally important. The carries and the catches are there. They aren’t going to just go away so someone needs to seize it.”
“I think you have to put whoever is most ready mentally. The one who knows the offense and knows what to do is going to allow you to play better overall.””
He didn’t mention YPC or speed…though I’m sure if someone is really producing as a playmaker on a regular basis, the other stuff could be set aside. Rare.
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I guess Ben Mason should be Michigan’s starting tailback.
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